Saddlebag latches broken

swinford57

swinford57

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Columbus, Ohio USA
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2010 marroon NT700V
The plastic posts that hold the saddle bag (pannier) latch snapped off on the left side. Same thing about to happen on the right side. Glad I had two keys on me. I taped to lid closed and with the key still in the side release key holder, I made it home.

I've gently used these latches over the years after reading the notorious nature of these latches. But, same outcome.

Posts I have found remedy this with epoxy. So I am in the process of reconstructing the posts. Any other thoughts or ideas.
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Lots of folks mount external latches. I've got some and will use them the next time my latches fail. This set of latches has been on the bike for 80K miles and usually works with no problems. Every now and then, the right side is hard to get into, but I've learned how to use needle-nose pliers after removing the seat to get into it. Then it seems to work for a long time.
 
I use the Southco latches on my lids ordered on eBay. I asked the vendor for "keyed alike" latches and that was what I ordered. I feel the epoxy is only a temporary fix, these latches do not fail. I used aluminum rivets, and I put a small stainless steel plate on the inside of the latching plate to protect the plastic.

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https://www.southco.com/product/class.aspx?cid=7421&ctid=103
 
New external latches are a solid solution. Thanks for the link. I am probably headed there, so I don't have to worry about the lids popping open.

Please walk me through disengaging the the key mechanism. That is, currently the key will not lock and come out because not all the latches are activated (because one is snapped off). How do you deactivate the lock AND still maintain a seat locking ability.
 
swinford57 said:
New external latches are a solid solution. Thanks for the link. I am probably headed there, so I don't have to worry about the lids popping open.

Please walk me through disengaging the the key mechanism. That is, currently the key will not lock and come out because not all the latches are activated (because one is snapped off). How do you deactivate the lock AND still maintain a seat locking ability.
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All I did was take the metal latch off the lid and left the mechanism in place.

Another thing I did was to use an adjustable strap to hold my bag liners and other gear away from the lids so there is no pressure against the lids. Good luck, BB
 
swinford57 said:
Please walk me through disengaging the the key mechanism. That is, currently the key will not lock and come out because not all the latches are activated (because one is snapped off). How do you deactivate the lock AND still maintain a seat locking ability.
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When I put on my external Southco latches I removed the entire lock/latch system and gave to someone else here on the forum. The result was that I cold no longer lock down my seat, but it never blew off either. It still took a good rearward tug to pull it off.
 
I believe you may be able to disconnect the cable from the lock under the seat. I disconnected the cable going to the right side bag but left the left still hooked up. So now my right side latches but does not lock. If that works for left side you could do that.

Brad
 
Okay, here is what happened in the end. I used two coats of JB Weld plastic bond to coat three of the posts and to rebuild the 4th post. I am a believer in epoxy now. It seems stronger than the plastic it is sticking too. I hope it's a long term solution. I will keep my eye on the plastic posts going forward. If it is not the fix, then external latches are the next step.

THANKS TO THIS FORUM FOR WALKING ME THROUGH THIS.

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Hope it works well for you.
Mother Honda really should have done better on these latches.

Brad
 
swinford57 said:
New external latches are a solid solution. Thanks for the link. I am probably headed there, so I don't have to worry about the lids popping open.

Please walk me through disengaging the the key mechanism. That is, currently the key will not lock and come out because not all the latches are activated (because one is snapped off). How do you deactivate the lock AND still maintain a seat locking ability.
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One external latch placed just below the grab handle is plenty. I opted for the equivalent to the Southco latches.

Here's a link to my thread covering these latches. Brillot2000 - Improved Pannier Latches
 
Most or all of the external saddlebag latches are designed to fit on a flat surface but the mounting position on the NT saddlebag has a curvature.

Was this a problem and if so, how did you solve it? I did this once before on Deb's bike and I had to make a tapered spacer so it would work properly.
 
Hey - Thanks for the info about the wobble shims! It'll save me a bunch of time laboring at my bench vice with mill file in hand. :rolleyes:
 
DirtFlier said:
Most or all of the external saddlebag latches are designed to fit on a flat surface but the mounting position on the NT saddlebag has a curvature.

Was this a problem and if so, how did you solve it? I did this once before on Deb's bike and I had to make a tapered spacer so it would work properly.
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That is not entirely true with the latches that I selected. The clasp of the latch can go past the centerline for of the pivot point for items that are not completely flat.

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DirtFlier said:
Most or all of the external saddlebag latches are designed to fit on a flat surface but the mounting position on the NT saddlebag has a curvature.

Was this a problem and if so, how did you solve it? I did this once before on Deb's bike and I had to make a tapered spacer so it would work properly.
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I made my own tapered shim's from plastic stock I had on hand.
 
DirtFlier said:
Most or all of the external saddlebag latches are designed to fit on a flat surface but the mounting position on the NT saddlebag has a curvature.

Was this a problem and if so, how did you solve it? I did this once before on Deb's bike and I had to make a tapered spacer so it would work properly.
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I installed Southco latches without any wedges or removing the locking mechanism. I installed them three years ago, made three trips from south central Pa. all over New England and had no trouble with the latches. Adding a couple hooks inside and using a nylon strap across gear and bag liners, keeps any pressure off the lids. BB

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Brillot2000 said:
That is not entirely true with the latches that I selected. The clasp of the latch can go past the centerline for of the pivot point for items that are not completely flat.

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Good afternoon, name is Ron, from Dallas area! I am a great fan for CB750 K1-K6 and 78-79 CBX1000. Had and few about a decade ago loved them. Love the classic 70s Hondas. Well, my Honda interest pulled me towards my recent acquisition 2010 NT700V. Spangled Silver Metallic. Whoa, what a beauty. All original from the original owner who bought it in 2011! The bike was never ridden much with 1500 miles on the odometer. As you all know I am having issues with the left pannier, doesn't lock. I am trying to put the Brillot2000 suggested latches but wanted some instructions20241018_153245.jpg before I drill the plastic. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
 
With that few miles, it is doubtful that the OE latch mechanism has had much use. Have you tried cleaning and lubricating the mechanism first? Also, can you be a bit more specific about the left pannier not locking.

Mike
 
Thanks to you both for your responses. Yes, it got brittle and broke. JB weld didn't work. Now I have two options 1) left pannier saddle bag cover replacement ($587 from Honda) or take off the metal striker bolts of the cover and install the latches as mentioned above. NewTo700V, Yes, I read your post as well. Great pics and write as I was diving into ton of info on this subject in multiple forums. Btw, the right-side covers works perfectly with no issues.
 
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