How does one ride an NT?

mikesim said:
Any motorcycle that has a chain drive should be required to have a center stand...... like God intended!
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Mike
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Its a safety issue. Keeping the chain clean, lubed, adjusted, and the rear Wheel aligned. I am trying to remember when I saw my first standless bike and had to add a $270 stand to it>
Not my 80 cc Yamaha street bike....not my YM1 305 Yamaha..350 Honda.....not the whole series of 350 and 400 Yamahas, not the 650 Yamaha twins....not the 1981 shaft Virago or the 920 virago
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Certainly not my 1983 Gold wing or Yamaha 650 seca.....Not my Kawasaki C10....not the NT700....it was probably the 2017 Vstrom...My VFR 800 Delux came with one.
 
You have 3 pages of info to read and probably every question has been answered - which doesn't mean I'm not going to chime in....
My NT thoughts;
1 - I like the bike now much more than I did when I first got it. I currently have appx 28,000 miles on it.
2 - The first few thousand miles I rode in T mode, then switched to sport III mode and that made the bike much more likeable.

Now for some nit picky stuff:
3 - The "Park brake" is worthless....not "kind of worthless", but "totally worthless". Maybe mine isn't adjusted right....but there you go.
4 - I haven't yet figured out how to adjust the Engine braking/ Torque/ Power to 100% for each one. Each time I've tried at least one of the bars comes up. This probably isn't making sense, and I am NOT a techy, and I could be wrong and if I'm wrong I would be glad if someone could school me on this part...
5 - My advice is at stop lights either take your hand off the throttle or put the bike in neutral... Trust me on this one you don't want your hand to slip on the throttle or forget what bike you are on and blip the throttle while your sitting all relaxed minding your own business at a stop light....
6 - The apple play screen etc is also worthless to me.. I haven't found any reason to use it. Riding back from an east coast ride, I ran into a couple NT guys who echoed that same thought.
7 - If I had it to do over.......I would probably have bought another Adventure tourer.
 
Tombstone said:
5 - My advice is at stop lights either take your hand off the throttle or put the bike in neutral... Trust me on this one you don't want your hand to slip on the throttle or forget what bike you are on and blip the throttle while your sitting all relaxed minding your own business at a stop light....
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Ya, I noticed the same thing on my BMW R1300 RT with the Automated Shift Assist (ie automatic). You certainly have the potential to do an unintentional launch whether in auto mode or manual. They work the same - no clutch. I think that in one of the more subdued riding modes it would be controllable but in Dynamic mode probably not. Unless I disable the safety settings at least the front wheel won't come off the ground. I got in the habit of stopping a fair distance from the car ahead at stop lights. The initial engagement is very quick but in the mild to moderate riding modes the acceleration is mild to moderate. Engaging the "Hill Start" feature does not prevent an unintended forward launch either. Holding the brake does.
Tombstone said:
7 - If I had it to do over.......I would probably have bought another Adventure tourer.
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You have to like your bike. I loved my Tiger 800. But when I rode the RT it was a complete game changer. This is by far the most comfortable and capable motorcycle I've ever had. It is arguably the most technologically advanced motorcycle in production. Most of the settings are configurable. But changing one ofter changes other settings that you just made. BMW calls that "Dynamic". Sometimes frustrating but mostly very appropriate. Going from point A to B I use the middle riding mode (Road) with ASA (automatic) engaged. But in more technical situations I use Dynamic Mode and manual shifting mode which actually tilts the nose down to a steeper head angle, reduces the suspension damping and jacks the throttle response up to "Wow". It handles and performs like an entirely different bike.

While the Tiger was better off road it was NOT an off road bike. The 19" front tire was not as good in the twisty. And until I met this RT it was the best motorcycle I've ever owned. But I won't; own another one. Same goes for my old NT. It was great until I moved on.
 
junglejim said:
You have to like your bike. I loved my Tiger 800. But when I rode the RT it was a complete game changer. This is by far the most comfortable and capable motorcycle I've ever had. It is arguably the most technologically advanced motorcycle in production.

While the Tiger was better off road it was NOT an off road bike. The 19" front tire was not as good in the twisty. And until I met this RT it was the best motorcycle I've ever owned. But I won't; own another one. Same goes for my old NT. It was great until I moved on.
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My NT has a very hard act to follow, the Super Tenere I had before the NT was a bike that fit me to a "T"!
I put 170,000 miles on the S-Ten and if Yamaha still made them that is what I would have bought. Ohh well.....
Which is not to say the NT1100 is an inferior bike....on the contrary, the NT has carried me coast to coast (USA) twice now and nary a hiccup. Maybe the biggest problem with the NT is that the rider needs to be less 'old school' and a bit more 'techy' than I am! :)
 
Tombstone said:
Maybe the biggest problem with the NT is that the rider needs to be less 'old school' and a bit more 'techy' than I am! :)
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For sure that applies to me too. The new RT has been called the most technologically advanced bike and I just barely can use a smartphone. I keep getting older and everything keeps getting more complicated. But the technology really does work better. Figuring it out is healthy exercise for my aging brain. At 83 years old now my riding days are quite limited. I certainly don’t push the RT to anywhere near its limits, but I’m content to just enjoy it.
 
Tombstone said:
You have 3 pages of info to read and probably every question has been answered - which doesn't mean I'm not going to chime in....
My NT thoughts;
1 - I like the bike now much more than I did when I first got it. I currently have appx 28,000 miles on it.
2 - The first few thousand miles I rode in T mode, then switched to sport III mode and that made the bike much more likeable.

Now for some nit picky stuff:
3 - The "Park brake" is worthless....not "kind of worthless", but "totally worthless". Maybe mine isn't adjusted right....but there you go.
4 - I haven't yet figured out how to adjust the Engine braking/ Torque/ Power to 100% for each one. Each time I've tried at least one of the bars comes up. This probably isn't making sense, and I am NOT a techy, and I could be wrong and if I'm wrong I would be glad if someone could school me on this part...
5 - My advice is at stop lights either take your hand off the throttle or put the bike in neutral... Trust me on this one you don't want your hand to slip on the throttle or forget what bike you are on and blip the throttle while your sitting all relaxed minding your own business at a stop light....
6 - The apple play screen etc is also worthless to me.. I haven't found any reason to use it. Riding back from an east coast ride, I ran into a couple NT guys who echoed that same thought.
7 - If I had it to do over.......I would probably have bought another Adventure tourer.
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Thank you. One guy drove off with brake on and now has issues.
 
Chucksklrst said:
My park brake work great once I got used to using it.
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I tested it at OSHKOSH. I think it is one of those lawyer mandated items, like shutting off your lawn mower every time you release the handle. (a tied sock defeats that, BTW.
I think over the last 60 years, I can count on one hand every time I left my bike in gear. Always park pointing up hill. I am not saying this hand brake is a bad thing. I am saying you are paying for it. Like the DCT. And it ads weight.
OTOH, my 1960s Yamaha YM1 had adjustable foot pegs....and rubber tank pads. Wish it had rubber fork gaiters.
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Tombstone said:
You have 3 pages of info to read and probably every question has been answered - which doesn't mean I'm not going to chime in....
My NT thoughts;
1 - I like the bike now much more than I did when I first got it. I currently have appx 28,000 miles on it.
2 - The first few thousand miles I rode in T mode, then switched to sport III mode and that made the bike much more likeable.

Now for some nit picky stuff:
3 - The "Park brake" is worthless....not "kind of worthless", but "totally worthless". Maybe mine isn't adjusted right....but there you go.
4 - I haven't yet figured out how to adjust the Engine braking/ Torque/ Power to 100% for each one. Each time I've tried at least one of the bars comes up. This probably isn't making sense, and I am NOT a techy, and I could be wrong and if I'm wrong I would be glad if someone could school me on this part...
5 - My advice is at stop lights either take your hand off the throttle or put the bike in neutral... Trust me on this one you don't want your hand to slip on the throttle or forget what bike you are on and blip the throttle while your sitting all relaxed minding your own business at a stop light....
6 - The apple play screen etc is also worthless to me.. I haven't found any reason to use it. Riding back from an east coast ride, I ran into a couple NT guys who echoed that same thought.
7 - If I had it to do over.......I would probably have bought another Adventure tourer.
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#5 is excellent advice! I bought my first helmet headset when I bought the bike as I like to listen to music when riding. One of the first few trips out, stopped at at red light, my first phone call ever came in and the ring in my helmet startled me badly. I guess I blipped the throttle, because I launched forward into the intersection. Luckily, I didn't hit anybody., but did bruise my shin badly on a footpeg when I clamped the front brake. I pay way more attention to the throttle when stopped now. I also added a thin o-ring between the throttle grip to add just a bit more tension on throttle movement.
 
Coyote Chris said:
I tested it at OSHKOSH. I think it is one of those lawyer mandated items, like shutting off your lawn mower every time you release the handle. (a tied sock defeats that, BTW.
I think over the last 60 years, I can count on one hand every time I left my bike in gear. Always park pointing up hill. I am not saying this hand brake is a bad thing. I am saying you are paying for it. Like the DCT. And it ads weight.
OTOH, my 1960s Yamaha YM1 had adjustable foot pegs....and rubber tank pads. Wish it had rubber fork gaiters.
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Putting the bike in gear when parked is all fine and dandy, but the NT1100 with the DCT, when turned off it auto switches to neutral. If on a forward facing incline the risk of rolling off the Side stand is real. Thus the parking brake. I don't understand how some one can ride off with the P brake engaged. Does one not feel the drag / resistance to moving. Not to mention the idiot light on the instrument screen.
 
Coyote Chris said:
I am not saying this hand brake is a bad thing. I am saying you are paying for it. Like the DCT. And it ads weight.
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Given its location also service costs...
Already the Honda Crosstourer DCT had that issue...
Adding a 3rd brake caliper on the bottom of the rear rotor, leaves it really exposed to road spray and all kinds of debris flung ob by the front wheel...
Getting that thing apart, clean and its kinematic working again was quite an ordeal on a friend's Crosstourer (who soon sold it as its too top-heavy for him in the alpine twisties...)
 
Finally got to try DCT. It is so NOT complicated to use. I can even work the parking brake release with ONE hand! 😲
 
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Riverdawg said:
#5 is excellent advice! I bought my first helmet headset when I bought the bike as I like to listen to music when riding. One of the first few trips out, stopped at at red light, my first phone call ever came in and the ring in my helmet startled me badly. I guess I blipped the throttle, because I launched forward into the intersection. Luckily, I didn't hit anybody., but did bruise my shin badly on a footpeg when I clamped the front brake. I pay way more attention to the throttle when stopped now. I also added a thin o-ring between the throttle grip to add just a bit more tension on throttle movement.
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FB folk talk about issues with slow, tight turns on wet pavement. Use S1 and rear brake. Does the rear brake work? The Tiger does. The Vstrom and it don't.
 
NewTo700V said:
Finally got to try DCT. It is so NOT complicated to use. I can even work the parking brake release with ONE hand! 😲
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I had no issues with the one at OSHKOSH. And I have issues with a plastic pop bottle
 
ST1100Y said:
Given its location also service costs...
Already the Honda Crosstourer DCT had that issue...
Adding a 3rd brake caliper on the bottom of the rear rotor, leaves it really exposed to road spray and all kinds of debris flung ob by the front wheel...
Getting that thing apart, clean and its kinematic working again was quite an ordeal on a friend's Crosstourer (who soon sold it as its too top-heavy for him in the alpine twisties...)
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The older I get, the lighter the bikes will become. The XT is fine loaded...for now.
 
So Chris, to answer your question about "How does one ride an NT?" You turn it on just like any other motorcycle, You sit on the seat, You push the drive button , and then twist the right hand grip. There you go as simple as that. Have a good ride. :rofl1:
 
Chucksklrst said:
So Chris, to answer your question about "How does one ride an NT?" You turn it on just like any other motorcycle, You sit on the seat, You push the drive button , and then twist the right hand grip. There you go as simple as that. Have a good ride. :rofl1:
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Wow... Cool! According to the Euro riders, blipping the throttle at a stoplight when you are behind Lamborghini is not a good idea.😉
 
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