Got's me a 2025 NT1100!!!!

At first glance, it appears to be similar to the current CAN bus sytems which are commonly used in new automotive applications. BMW was the first to use it in motorcycle applications and it wreaked havoc with the aftermarket accessory business at first. AFAIK, BMW is still the sole manufacturer to use a CAN bus system in motorcycles.

Mike
My 2016 Triumph Tiger 800 uses CAN bus wiring. Low vintage wires running all over. Starter, lights, and accessory circuits are 12v. And maybe fuel pump.
 
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Oh for the days of PC800 Pacific Coast with hydraulic lifters. And a upright twin engine? I thought everyone liked a V-twin. And more $$. Are acting like teanagers?

Russ
 
Russ, the Pacific Coast was a V-Twin just like the NT700, not an upright by which I assume you mean a parallel twin.

Mike
 
I picked up mine today at Cache Honda Yamaha, trading in my 2019 Tracer 900GT. I put 55 miles on it on the ride home. First impressions are pretty positive. I rode it mostly in Sport 2 mode, need to try some of the other modes. I'm 6'4" with about a 34" inseam, I may need to lower the footpegs. It looks like Puig makes a bracket to do so, anyone know of any others?


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I picked up mine today at Cache Honda Yamaha, trading in my 2019 Tracer 900GT. I put 55 miles on it on the ride home. First impressions are pretty positive. I rode it mostly in Sport 2 mode, need to try some of the other modes. I'm 6'4" with about a 34" inseam, I may need to lower the footpegs. It looks like Puig makes a bracket to do so, anyone know of any others?


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Dont ever get on a VFR....you will need a chiropractor! LOL> Would love to here your impressions about riding with that tranny and the vibrations at different speeds. The riding position for me on that bike is perfect as I am 6 ft 1 (shrunk an inch)
 
OK, I read up on can bus
I can see where ECUs can talk with each other...but I still dont understand how you push on a brake peddle and the brake lite comes on.
Each accessory/function still has a switch that detects the operators command, but instead of controlling the accessory directly it sends a signal to the ECU which then commands the requested function. How does this work? The can bus operates at a steady reference DC voltage, for example 5VDC. Each switch is manufactured with a voltage dropping resistor whose resistance value is unique to that switch. When that switch is activated by the operator the 5VDC signal is routed through the voltage dropping resistor resulting in a specified value, for example 4.7VDC this signal is interpreted by the analog/digital converter within the ECU to activate the requested function. Within the ECU is a lookup table that defines the voltages and their intended functions. For example:

If voltage = 4.7VDC then activate brake lamp
If voltage = 4.5VDC then activate horn
If voltage = 3.8VDC then activate left turn signnal
etc....

The CAN bus system simplifies the wiring immensely. If you look at the steering wheel controls on your new Outback you will see dozens of functions that can be controlled from the steering wheel. Using the old system of discrete wiring for each function, these controls would be impossible as the wiring harness would be as big around as your wrist.

This is a simplified explanation, but you get the idea.

Mike
 
Dont ever get on a VFR....you will need a chiropractor! LOL> Would love to here your impressions about riding with that tranny and the vibrations at different speeds. The riding position for me on that bike is perfect as I am 6 ft 1 (shrunk an inch)
If you were used to the NT700 vibs then the 1100 is much the same with a lot more power. More pronounced than my V-twin V-Strom but not obtrusive at lower RPM. Higher RBMs the vibs are not really noticeable and seem to disappear. The exhaust has a nice growl to it at Idle but again not obtrusive. Great balance between pleasant, manly sound and respect for bystanders. Riding in Drive the tranny shifts too soon to higher gears and seems to lug the engine on acceleration. You can manually shift down to solve that or use D-S1 or S2. Shift points then are more in line with real world riding. Riding along at 65 mph in 6 gear and wanting to pass just manually shift down a gear and go. When you let back off the gas again the bike will automatically shift back up again. A learning curve? Yes but it has been fun experimenting with the DCT. Get in to the tight stuff, use full manual mode and shift as necessary or to your liking. No fussing with a clutch handle or foot shifter just a finger input on the shift paddles. My beginner problem is with both my standard tranny bikes and this DCT, switching back and forth between bikes I tend to forget to pull the clutch in on the FJR and on the DCT Honda I am reaching for a clutch which is not there. Get one, you will be pleasantly surprised. Remember the parallel twin is not a V-4 or an inline 4, as they all have their own characteristics.
 
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