PA - Motorcycle inspections year round ??

ett

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Don't know how many members on here this affects. But for me; I believe this would be good.
Here in Eastern PA; we rarely get Winters that completely prevent riding of motorcycles.
And it's kind of a pita renewing registration one part of the year; and then inspecting a completely different part of the year.

PA Senate Bill 1147
The Senate passed legislation to allow safety inspections to be performed year-round on motorcycles registered in Pennsylvania.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us//cfdocs/Legis/CSM/showMemoPublic.cfm?chamber=S&SPick=20230&cosponId=42312

What say you ?
 
I like the new Senate bill! That is what we have in MO. Our MC license renewals are in June. Our safety inspections a valid for six months. So, sometime before June, you need to head to the inspection station and git 'er done. You can as an option, renew your plate for two years which is what I do.

Mike
 
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Why is safety inspections in a state that doesn't require helmets even a thing?
Helmets only protect the rider... Safety Inspections, in theory, protect others from unsafe vehicles. Helmets, and other safety gear, are a personal choice, keeping rolling wrecks off the road endangering others is the governments choice.
 
I'm not a big fan of state inspections. I haven't seen them be effective. For instance, they can verify your lights and turn signals work, but if the driver doesn't use them there is no value added.
If the new law makes it easier for you that is a positive step.

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I'm not a big fan of state inspections. I haven't seen them be effective. For instance, they can verify your lights and turn signals work, but if the driver doesn't use them there is no value added.
If the new law makes it easier for you that is a positive step.

Arknt
The ONE thing NJ got right. Motorcycles no longer require inspections.
BUT they got it right AFTER I moved out of that state. :mad:
When I lived in NJ; they were even requiring reflective stickers on helmets for inspections.
 
I have a question for you folks in states that require inspections. Do they inspect the exhaust system - specifically the mufflers. Do they allow loud aftermarket mufflers? We are blessed with a lot of Milwaukee Noise Makers with very loud mufflers here in WI demonstrating how well they can convert gasoline into noise. The same goes for ATVs and the tuned pipes on snowmobiles. Lots of people run them but citations are rarely written. Jet boats are obnoxious too but they are inherently noisy machines.

Personally I have never had a motorcycle inspected every crossing the northern border into Canada. So I guess I’ll just have to keep doing it myself.
 
I have a question for you folks in states that require inspections. Do they inspect the exhaust system - specifically the mufflers. Do they allow loud aftermarket mufflers? We are blessed with a lot of Milwaukee Noise Makers with very loud mufflers here in WI demonstrating how well they can convert gasoline into noise. The same goes for ATVs and the tuned pipes on snowmobiles. Lots of people run them but citations are rarely written. Jet boats are obnoxious too but they are inherently noisy machines.

Personally I have never had a motorcycle inspected every crossing the northern border into Canada. So I guess I’ll just have to keep doing it myself.
For PA:
https://www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/...ub_45 Inspections Regulations/Subchapterh.pdf
175.152. Exhaust Systems
(a) Condition of Exhaust System - All com ponents of the exhaust system shall be in safe operating
condition as described in §175.160 (relating to inspection procedure).
(b) Exhaust System Requirements - A motor cycle shall be equipped with a muffler or other effective noise-
suppressing system in good working order and in constant operation. A muffler or exhaust system may not be
equipped with a cutout, bypass or similar device and a muffler may not show evidence of external repair.
(1) The exhaust system of a motorcycle may not be modified in a manner which will amplify or in crease
noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle above the maximum level per mitted by Chapter 157 (relating to
established sound levels).
(2) An exposed exhaust systems shall be equipped with adequate heat shield or protective system or be
located to prevent contact by operator or passenger.
 
Missouri has no requirement for mufflers, thus we have many bikes on our roads with straight pipes...... but we all know that "loud pipes save lives"..... :rolleyes:. When I was a pup, law enforcement would issue you a summons for loud pipes, not so any more.

Mike
 
If LLO's issued citations for loud pipes, not only on bikes but also cars & trucks, it would become a full-time job and it would quickly become very unpopular!
 
If LLO's issued citations for loud pipes, not only on bikes but also cars & trucks, it would become a full-time job and it would quickly become very unpopular!
Very true, but how did we go from zero tolerance to anything goes?

Mike
 
Very true, but how did we go from zero tolerance to anything goes?

Easy, here we closed the State Vehicle Safety Inspection programs and made over loaded LEO's responsible for equipment violation enforcement. That is what happened in Georgia so now we have bikers boys and bubba boys with loud exhausts, and other unsafe illegal modifications, who get away with it unless stopped for another reason or the LEO has time to kill.

I agree with that in theory... But that's much more applicable to autos. You choose to ride a clapped out bike with no lights and junk brakes you're mostly putting yourself at risk, not the general public.

The "general public" is involved both directly and indirectly. When biker boy on that clapped out bike loses it in a corner or blows a bald tire...someone else must be responsible and needs to be sued. God Forbid they would be responsible for their own actions and accept the consequences. And there are way too many ambulance chaser lawyers who will take any accident case.

The accident causes all sorts of taxpayer costs for LEO's EMTs, ER's, and the court system, all of which local taxes support. Plus everyone's vehicle insurance rates go up with the accident rate regardless of the cause. So the "general public" is very involved even if as a secondary issue to the accident. Don't let me be on that jury as the "culpable negligence" concept is going to be used on biker boy's settlement big time.
 
I too live in NE Pennsylvania, so am subject to annual inspections on motor vehicles. I moved here from NY, which also has the annual inspection requirement. I have lived in PA for 6 years now and have two bikes but have only gotten them inspected once in PA. My problem with state mandated vehicle inspections is that they are performed by shops which stand to profit by failing them, knowing that most people will have them go ahead and have them make the repair. My car failed an inspection for a taillight bulb. Shame on me for not checking prior to taking it in. I was quoted $30 to replace the bulb. I told them to pack sand and I would change it myself. Brought the car to get it checked out and get my window sticker, and guess what... I was charged a reinspection fee which brought the total (just for the bulb), to $30! If I had allowed them to change the bulb, it would have been the same amount.

As for motorcycle inspections, I took my bikes to a local shop that is certified to do motorcycle inspections. The mechanic rode my bikes around the block and did a thorough inspection. He failed one of the bikes for a worn rear tire. The tire was near end of life, but still had some meat on it. I believe I could have gotten at least another 2,000 miles on it, but it's a judgement call, right? And he's the judge, so whatcha gonna do? Got a new tire a little earlier that I would have preferred, but so be it. What was interesting was a comment he made while all this back and forth, inspection/reinspection stuff was going on. He told me that he hadn't had his own bike inspected in several years. I found that odd, but my take-away was that annual inspections, at least on a motorcycle in PA is somewhat optional... IF... you are willing to assume the risk of getting a fix-it ticket in the event you are pulled over. A teacher of mine once said, "You pay your money and you take your choice". Haven't gotten my bikes inspected since.

Bottom line is that I think these state inspections can be good at revealing problems which could affect safety for the driver and others on the road, especially for those who are not mechanically inclined, but should be performed by a third party who does not stand to profit from failing the vehicle.
 
Safety inspections here in Mass are all independent shops, reinspection's are free if done within a specific timeframe. Finding a shop you are comfortable with post COVID is a problem for lots of folks. Not getting your vehicle inspected here is a "moving violation" that follows you for years of higher insurance bills.
 
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In MO reinspections are free for 30 days. State inspections are not a choice as you must present the inspection certificate to renew your license plates. A new change has taken effect that as long as you have less than 150K miles, inspections are not required. I don't know if that applies to motorcycles though.

Mike
 
I too live in NE Pennsylvania, so am subject to annual inspections on motor vehicles. I moved here from NY, which also has the annual inspection requirement. I have lived in PA for 6 years now and have two bikes but have only gotten them inspected once in PA. My problem with state mandated vehicle inspections is that they are performed by shops which stand to profit by failing them, knowing that most people will have them go ahead and have them make the repair. My car failed an inspection for a taillight bulb. Shame on me for not checking prior to taking it in. I was quoted $30 to replace the bulb. I told them to pack sand and I would change it myself. Brought the car to get it checked out and get my window sticker, and guess what... I was charged a reinspection fee which brought the total (just for the bulb), to $30! If I had allowed them to change the bulb, it would have been the same amount.

As for motorcycle inspections, I took my bikes to a local shop that is certified to do motorcycle inspections. The mechanic rode my bikes around the block and did a thorough inspection. He failed one of the bikes for a worn rear tire. The tire was near end of life, but still had some meat on it. I believe I could have gotten at least another 2,000 miles on it, but it's a judgement call, right? And he's the judge, so whatcha gonna do? Got a new tire a little earlier that I would have preferred, but so be it. What was interesting was a comment he made while all this back and forth, inspection/reinspection stuff was going on. He told me that he hadn't had his own bike inspected in several years. I found that odd, but my take-away was that annual inspections, at least on a motorcycle in PA is somewhat optional... IF... you are willing to assume the risk of getting a fix-it ticket in the event you are pulled over. A teacher of mine once said, "You pay your money and you take your choice". Haven't gotten my bikes inspected since.

Bottom line is that I think these state inspections can be good at revealing problems which could affect safety for the driver and others on the road, especially for those who are not mechanically inclined, but should be performed by a third party who does not stand to profit from failing the vehicle.
About 25 years ago, back when I lived in NJ. I had a '94 Ford Ranger Splash; that had tinted windows.
With NJ's state inspection stations; it was a crap shoot as to if they would ignore the tinted windows.
So I had to take that pickup to private garage for inspections.
Usually never had a problem. EXCEPT one year.
That year, the A/C quit working and I thought it was the compressor, but was not certain.
SO I told the private shop to:
Inspect truck. If it passes, THEN diagnose why the A/C quit working.
They called me later that day to say truck was done.
When I went to get the truck, they said the A/C compressor died, was X-dollars to fix, and asked me if I wanted them to fix it.
I said "No thank you. I rarely use the A/C and x-dollars is more than the truck is worth."
They then replied. "Ok. Truck failed inspection. Horn does not work."
I made them walk me me over to truck, and watch me press the horn button. It worked.
They said "That's odd, it did not work when we inspected it."
So yea; they pulled the "Pay us or it fails." bs.

AS to yearly inspections catching problems.
Just go watch youtube videos such as "Just Rolled In" to see the scary stuff people are driving around it.
 
+++ on "Just Rolled In". One of my favorite YouTube channels, but scary as hell. Amazing what people will do with spray foam! Lol.
 
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