Jump packs.

[Frosty]

It was a Yuasa. I had an issue with a Yuasa battery in my BMW as well. That is when I contacted the company, The company does not do warranty. That is on the distributor or vehicle manufacturer. Triumph would not do anything without the original battery. It worked its way out of the bungee net, jumped off the bike at Chris and ran into the tall grass on a 2 lane road in MT. It eluded capture ... it was a bad battery. I paid for the replacement back home.
A very nice man at Yuasa told me that distributors will keep batteries in storage for too long and sell them on the web. That was not my case with the BMW. He ended up sending me a new battery for the BMW (substituted a higher capacity quad battery).

 

[ST1100Y]

A well maintained battery on a bike lasts quite a long time.

Dunno...
GF's NT700VA always required 3~4 taps on the button till the starter actually turned the engine over... and even then it sounded strained...
Installed a new, fully charged OEM style AGM... no change...
Installed a new, fully charged gel type... same as above... turning over even worse (gel types show growing internal resistance under load...)
Installed a NOCO LiFEPO4... ah! Now we're getting somewhere... first tap, two rotations of the starter and it fires... always!

 

[mikesim]

Dunno...
GF's NT700VA always required 3~4 taps on the button till the starter actually turned the engine over... and even then it sounded strained...
Installed a new, fully charged OEM style AGM... no change...
Installed a new, fully charged gel type... same as above... turning over even worse (gel types show growing internal resistance under load...)
Installed a NOCO LiFEPO4... ah! Now we're getting somewhere... first tap, two rotations of the starter and it fires... always!

Hmmmmm.... that's strange. Sounds like you may have issues other than the battery...

Mike

 

[ST1100Y]

Sounds like you may have issues other than the battery...

Nope, because that was like 3 years ago...
Back then I checked everything*, switch-pods, relay, wiring harness, ground connection... nothing...
(* would be dull to get your GF a "new" mount that leaves her stranded every now and then... so I made sure that thing is in top condition...)

I've this battery still sitting on the bench, brand new, in the carton, only like 3 starting attempts on it...

GF got that herself, frustrated with the lame starting behavior of a (new) Yuasa YTZ14S... that gel type behaved even worse...

Threw the LiFEPO4 in, she's happy ever since... steady as a Swiss watch: "yup-yup-drrrrrr..." a satisfying sound

Call me conspiracy theorist if you want, but with the change of the millennium quality/lifespan of starter batteries declined massively...
Back in the 90ies the Yuasa YTX14-BS in my ST1100 lasted like 5 years... these days I won't even get two out of them... hence the change to LiFEPO4...
And if those really get discharged due to longer garage times, it takes only ~45 minutes to have them fully recharged again (with their small GENIUS5 charger...)

 

[mikesim]

Nope, because that was like 3 years ago...
Back then I checked everything*, switch-pods, relay, wiring harness, ground connection... nothing...
(* would be dull to get your GF a "new" mount that leaves her stranded every now and then... so I made sure that thing is in top condition...)

I've this battery still sitting on the bench, brand new, in the carton, only like 3 starting attempts on it...

GF got that herself, frustrated with the lame starting behavior of a (new) Yuasa YTZ14S... that gel type behaved even worse...

Threw the LiFEPO4 in, she's happy ever since... steady as a Swiss watch: "yup-yup-drrrrrr..." a satisfying sound

Call me conspiracy theorist if you want, but with the change of the millennium quality/lifespan of starter batteries declined massively...
Back in the 90ies the Yuasa YTX14-BS in my ST1100 lasted like 5 years... these days I won't even get two out of them... hence the change to LiFEPO4...
And if those really get discharged due to longer garage times, it takes only ~45 minutes to have them fully recharged again (with their small GENIUS5 charger...)

OK, if you insist.... "you are a conspiracy theorist......", there!


But, as they say, the proof is in the pudding..... if it starts her scoot straight away, and she's happy, what's not to like? You can't argue with success!

Mike

 

[JQL]

I had a LiFePO4 on my NT700 and it was the best battery I've ever used. Even after 8 years the bike would start on the touch of the button. The battery I used was the SkyRich HJTZ14S-FP

Yes, below about 3°C you needed to leave the lights and/or heated grips on for a while; the length of the "while" is temperature dependent. But you soon got used to turning the ignition on then putting on your helmet, gloves etc. And she'd start first or second press of the button even in temperatures as low as -10°C (about a 5 minute wait at that temperature).

After 8 or so years, in all seasons, and about 90,000 miles using a LiFePO4 battery all I can say is "Don't listen to the neigh-sayers."

 

[Chucksklrst]

I have been running a Lifepo5 on my FJR for the last seven years with no issues. Mine was bought from Advanced Auto Parts brand back then for 125.00 bucks.

 

[ST1100Y]

...below about 3°C you needed to leave the lights and/or heated grips on for a while; the length of the "while" is temperature dependent.

Ze smart GF read up on this by herself and first flips the key ON to let the hardwired headlight put load on, while putting her gloves on...

I have been running a Lifepo5 on my FJR for the last seven years with no issues. Mine was bought from Advanced Auto Parts brand back then for 125.00 bucks.

My NOCO's came for even less (sale at "the big river"), totally worth it...
I would have had to spent those 120,- (some years up to 160,-) like every year for the conventional OEM Yuasa...
(and don't get me started on cheaper knockoffs... parked for 3~4 days and they were dead...)

 

[Coyote Chris]

The new jump packs I am getting are testing even better than the old jump packs when they were new.....

 

[WVRider]

I carry one all the time on both my street bikes. Back in 2016 I forgot my switch on while packing the bike at a campground and was charging my phone from an outlet on the bike at the same time. It drained the battery needless to say. Thankfully the park ranger had a set of jumper cables and after "Unpacking" the bike, we were able to get it going. Have had a jump pack since and have used it on several other peoples bikes, 2 different SUV's, a Dodge PU and my son's Hummer H3. Very compact and like noted elsewhere here, great for charging your phone in the tent when no electrical outlets available.

 

[mikesim]

Duane:
The NoCo jump boxes that I use have an accessory jump cable that hooks to the battery and the plug in is stored where it can be reached easily so if you are travelling and laden you don't have to unpack everything to get to the battery. If you pack for trips like the Coyote, it takes the better part of the day just to get to the battery....... I'm just sayin'....

Mike

 

[WVRider]

Mike,
Mine isn't too hard to unpack so I didn't bother putting an extended attachment point on it, though it is possible. Here's a pick of mine. My son and I were on a 25 day moto camping adventure last year. My 3rd trip out west.

 

[mikesim]

I remember that trip with your son last summer. I also remember that pic.... I think I was at the same spot several years ago on my trip home from out west. Was that on US 50?

Mike

 

[WVRider]

I remember that trip with your son last summer. I also remember that pic.... I think I was at the same spot several years ago on my trip home from out west. Was that on US 50? It's pretty cool how Utah has different pics at each welcome sign entering the state, that represents something in the area.

Mike

It was US40 at the state line between Dinosaur National Monument and Dinosaur, CO. We had camped for the night at Dinosaur National Monument. Yea the different signs are cool. Here was the one crossing into Utah south of Moab. Also shows my NT wasn't packed too bad with easy access to get under the seat.