What charges it? I am clueless here. 78% of all Americans have no way of charging an EV. Keep us up to date on what you experience. Range at 50 mph vs range at 75...that kind of thing.
A new steed in the stable
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Numerous home charger options are available to the public for hundreds of dollars from varying manufacturers. The image below shows a typical commercially available J1772 Charging unit that might be supplied with an EV or purchased online.
Many of these home unit can be either used with 120VAC (Level 1) or 240 VAC (Level 2).
Level 1 and Level 2 EV charging differ in terms of speed, power output, and the type of electrical connection used. Here's a breakdown:
Level 1 Charging:
- Power Source: Standard 120-volt outlet (common household plug).
- Charging Speed: Adds about 3–5 miles of range per hour.
- Power Output: Typically 1.2–1.4 kW.
- Equipment Required: Comes standard with most electric vehicles; includes a cord and portable charger.
- Use Case: Best for overnight charging at home or low daily mileage needs.
- Installation: No additional equipment or electrical work required—just plug into an existing outlet.
Level 2 Charging:
- Power Source: 240-volt outlet (used for appliances like dryers) or hardwired EV charging station.
- Charging Speed: Adds about 25–30 miles of range per hour.
- Power Output: Typically 3.3–19.2 kW, depending on the charger and EV.
- Equipment Required: Dedicated EVSE (Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment) charging station.
- Use Case: Ideal for faster home charging, workplace charging, or public charging stations.
- Installation: May require professional installation of a 240-volt outlet or hardwired charging unit.
Key Differences:
| Feature | Level 1 | Level 2 |
|---|---|---|
| Voltage | 120 volts | 240 volts |
| Power Output | 1.2–1.4 kW | 3.3–19.2 kW |
| Charging Speed | 3–5 miles/hour | 25–30 miles/hour |
| Equipment Needed | Portable charger (included) | EVSE charging station |
| Installation | Plug-and-play | Professional installation often required |
As for my experience with the bike, it has been nothing short of impressive. Starting with the battery at 100% State of Charge (SOC), I managed two full round trips to work and back. By the time I rolled into my driveway yesterday afternoon, the battery still had 29% SOC remaining—a testament to its efficiency under varied riding conditions.
Charging back to 85% SOC, my preset cutout level to help prolong battery life, took just over four hours. This level strikes a balance between convenience and maintaining the long-term health of the battery.
During my morning commutes, I hit the freeway, cruising (and occasionally tearing) along at speeds of 80+ MPH, with a heavy throttle hand. On the afternoon trips, I opted for a mixed route—about 60% on surface streets, then back on the freeway, again hitting 80+ MPH and embracing my inner hooligan wherever it felt safe and fun to do so.
Across two days, I covered nearly 80 miles, with plenty of spirited riding, and still had 29% SOC to spare. The battery's performance exceeded my expectations, even under the strain of high speeds, rapid acceleration, and a throttle-happy rider like me.
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The Energica Experia offers four standard riding modes, each tailored to specific riding conditions and preferences:
Motorcycle
Real-world experiences highlight the practicality of these modes. For instance, riders have reported achieving up to 150 miles on a single charge in mixed riding conditions, effectively managing range by switching between Eco and Urban modes.
Visordown
In wet weather, Rain Mode has been praised for providing confidence-inspiring control. Sport Mode offers exhilarating performance, with the Experia accelerating from 0 to 60 mph in 3.5 seconds.
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These versatile riding modes enable the Energica Experia to adapt seamlessly to various environments and riding styles, enhancing its practicality and enjoyment.
For a detailed walkthrough of Experia's modes and user interface, you might find this video helpful:
- Eco Mode: Prioritizes energy efficiency by reducing power output and acceleration, extending battery range—ideal for city commuting or maximizing distance.
- Urban Mode: Balances performance and efficiency, providing moderate power and responsive throttle control for everyday urban riding.
- Rain Mode: Enhances safety in wet conditions by softening throttle response and increasing traction control intervention to prevent wheel slip.
- Sport Mode: Delivers maximum power and sharp throttle response for dynamic riding, fully utilizing the Experia's 102 horsepower and 85 ft-lb of torque.
Motorcycle
Real-world experiences highlight the practicality of these modes. For instance, riders have reported achieving up to 150 miles on a single charge in mixed riding conditions, effectively managing range by switching between Eco and Urban modes.
Visordown
In wet weather, Rain Mode has been praised for providing confidence-inspiring control. Sport Mode offers exhilarating performance, with the Experia accelerating from 0 to 60 mph in 3.5 seconds.
RevZilla
These versatile riding modes enable the Energica Experia to adapt seamlessly to various environments and riding styles, enhancing its practicality and enjoyment.
For a detailed walkthrough of Experia's modes and user interface, you might find this video helpful:
So, the Iron Butt is out? Just guessin’.
I think I'll keep my KLR, it's paid for.
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Let’s set aside the fun and games for a moment. I’ve decided it’s time to embrace the electric revolution and invest in a premium motorcycle, the kind that’s been garnering all the buzz—especially when it comes to Italian craftsmanship.
After diving deep into research, I discovered that the Experia electric motorcycle has received rave reviews. However, it's disheartening to learn that the company now faces bankruptcy, largely due to the corrupt actions of a 70% US shareholding entity. It’s a shame to see such potential falter because of mismanagement!
Experia has truly blown me away! It’s not just meeting my expectations; it’s surpassing what I experienced with my 2015 Zero SR, which I had for 23,000 miles before it ultimately let me down. I'm now able to confidently tackle two full round trips to work—nearly 40 miles—on just 85% state of charge (SOC).
I decided to experiment with taking surface streets, and to my surprise, I used only 30% of the battery for the whole journey in ECO Mode, which limits the top speed to 55 MPH. It’s incredible to think that with a full charge at 100%, I could theoretically complete three whole trips! That said, I’ve learned that keeping lithium polymer batteries healthy is key, which is why I aim to charge to 80% SOC for longevity. I’ve tweaked the SOC limit to 85% and only go to 100% when the charge dips below 20%.
Overall, I’m having a blast with the bike! I have to admit, I’ve been a bit throttle-happy, especially when I switch it into the sportiest modes. It has not disappointed me in any way!
After diving deep into research, I discovered that the Experia electric motorcycle has received rave reviews. However, it's disheartening to learn that the company now faces bankruptcy, largely due to the corrupt actions of a 70% US shareholding entity. It’s a shame to see such potential falter because of mismanagement!
Experia has truly blown me away! It’s not just meeting my expectations; it’s surpassing what I experienced with my 2015 Zero SR, which I had for 23,000 miles before it ultimately let me down. I'm now able to confidently tackle two full round trips to work—nearly 40 miles—on just 85% state of charge (SOC).
I decided to experiment with taking surface streets, and to my surprise, I used only 30% of the battery for the whole journey in ECO Mode, which limits the top speed to 55 MPH. It’s incredible to think that with a full charge at 100%, I could theoretically complete three whole trips! That said, I’ve learned that keeping lithium polymer batteries healthy is key, which is why I aim to charge to 80% SOC for longevity. I’ve tweaked the SOC limit to 85% and only go to 100% when the charge dips below 20%.
Overall, I’m having a blast with the bike! I have to admit, I’ve been a bit throttle-happy, especially when I switch it into the sportiest modes. It has not disappointed me in any way!
Brillot it could be interesting to get some real-life data on KW per mile. Probably averaged over time say a month of normal riding.
I'm sure your new bike has lots of on-board features but to compare KW per mile to MPG of gasoline you would need to be sure the KW are the gross KW before any external chargers/converters or any on board stuff.
Just a thought, not sure how easy it would be to do, may need a wattmeter installed before any charger or power cable used.
Keep us posted on the new bike.
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I'm sure your new bike has lots of on-board features but to compare KW per mile to MPG of gasoline you would need to be sure the KW are the gross KW before any external chargers/converters or any on board stuff.
Just a thought, not sure how easy it would be to do, may need a wattmeter installed before any charger or power cable used.
Keep us posted on the new bike.
Arknt
Something like this would be ideal and only $100!
www.ekmmetering.com
Mike
Single Phase, Pass-Through kWh Meter, 2 or 3-Wire, 120V up to 120/240V, 100A, 60Hz, EKM-25XDSE
Universal Basic, Single Phase, Pass Through, kWh Meter –– up to 100A and 13.5mm Wire Diameter. Designed for single phase systems from 120V 2-wire (1 hot, 1 neutral), to 120/240V 3-wire (2 hots, 1 neutral), 100A, 60Hz. Read locally on the LCD display or remotely via pulse output.
www.ekmmetering.com
Mike
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Hi Mike,Something like this would be ideal and only $100!
Single Phase, Pass-Through kWh Meter, 2 or 3-Wire, 120V up to 120/240V, 100A, 60Hz, EKM-25XDSE
Universal Basic, Single Phase, Pass Through, kWh Meter –– up to 100A and 13.5mm Wire Diameter. Designed for single phase systems from 120V 2-wire (1 hot, 1 neutral), to 120/240V 3-wire (2 hots, 1 neutral), 100A, 60Hz. Read locally on the LCD display or remotely via pulse output.
Mike
Most electric vehicle (EV) motors operate as 3-phase brushless motors, utilizing a variable frequency drive. In this setup, a switching DC signal with a varying frequency is used to sequentially energize the motor coils. The frequency of the supplied signal directly influences the rotational speed of the armature shaft.
However, the device you shared is designed for use with a Single Phase AC source, operating at a frequency of 60 Hertz (cycles per second). It may not be suitable for the intended application with DC brushless motors.
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Methinks he suggested it as a sub-meter to log your electricity/costs for charging...
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That would definitely be my second guess! I've given it quite a bit of thought, and when it comes down to it, between the new bike upgrades, the upcoming holidays, home projects, and all the other awaiting project. It will be a while before I could put any time or resources toward such an item. I'm not ruling it out, just not at this time.
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I was browsing on Amazon for AC Watt Meters and came across this commercially available turn-key unit for under $80.
30A AC Power Meter, 120-240V Digital Multimeter Tester,NEMA L6-30 to NEMA L6-30 Outlet Monitor
I could easily modify it to use a NEMA L6-20P for the power input to align with my power connection. Then, I replaced the NEMA L6-30R with L-20R to make it compatible with my EV charger cable.
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Well, a single phase converters have better EER... 3-phase more oomph...
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If it were to be a DC quick charger unit, then a 3-phase service would be required. However, that is not what I have. I utilize a Level-2 240 VAC single-phase charging cable.
I was referring to the brushless motor drive systems used in most EVs manufactured in the last 10 years.
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Going back to one of your earlier topics.
I bought a $30 AC Power/kilo-watt meter from Amazon. To help track my EV Charging kilo-watt usage. I have temporarily wired the unit to the input of my EV Charge Cable. I will be mounting the unit in the watertight enclosure shown in the
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Let us know how much you are paying to go say 50 miles in your area. I wonder how many bike specific computers your bike has?