A new NT rumored

eventually the plastic body panels will take them out of service.
I ran into that problem this weekend. I was managing an SAE/USB cable from the battery to the front and had to remove the left side panel just below the seat next to the battery. Easy enough to remove...When i went to put it back I was careless and used a little too much force to get the dowel into the hole and part of the plastic that surrounds the left pannier cover snapped away.
It didn't fall off, so I put some transparent gorilla tape over it so it stays, but that plastic in the rear half of the bike is uber brittle by now
Beware
 
Let me touch on a few take away key points regarding Millennials and their upbringing.

I strongly disagree with your assessment of Millenials...
My child is a millennial who put herself thru a private university and earned a Masters . She has never asked me for anything except to support her with her transportation needs while she was still in school. She went to work straight out of school and is married to a smart young man.
Between the two of them thy are earning six figures and doing better than I ever have or will

I don't know where you get these opinions
 
I would be happy with the 650cc in the new model. I never understood why a 1000cc is need for touring for most people. A 650 Triumph was a big bike with less horsepower then today's models.
I still wonder why a touring bike has to have a 34" seat height.
 
I would be happy with the 650cc in the new model. I never understood why a 1000cc is need for touring for most people. A 650 Triumph was a big bike with less horsepower then today's models.
I still wonder why a touring bike has to have a 34" seat height.
The 750 engine would be a good fit. The cylinders slope forward about 70 degrees (I think), which results in a lower CG. It gets great gas mileage and is extremely smooth. It will also tolerate tall gearing. My 700X turns 3000 rpm at 60 mph. It is also easy to work on. Has 1 throttle body and threaded adjusters on the valves, with a 16K mile service interval. If they made it drive by wire, it could have a proper cruise control. The laid back personality of that engine would be a good fit as well.
 
The low RPM nature of the NC700 engines have not set the motorcycle world afire. I have one and bought it more for curiosity and for riding something different. Even in its enlarged 750 size, it may run into the same buyer's resistance because it won't do 110 mph in the 1/4 mile
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Turn on the news, you see a story on motorcycle accident, usually played up. So reality is a New NT is not needed for the bottom line of the manufacture. Honda made the motorcycle market with their slogan with a 50cc motorcycle, in the days of muscle cars. For the younger rider, you need to find a better way to make riding an enjoyable option and not a death option as seen on the news. Maybe a big push to outlaw the motorcycle: as it seemed to work for guns during the last administration saw an increase of gun ownership.

Why not have riders training more like they have for drivers training. Many areas are lucking to have a dealer offer training, twice a year.

A motorcycle like the NT, quite, easy to ride, with the ability to travel 1000's of miles with room for your needs. Maybe having a better link to your phone, the audio systems need to be easier for navigation, music, and yes to take calls (young people grew up with a device in their hands). As cars are showing us, there are too many distractions with the new farkles. For people my age a new NT is not needed, but if the manufacture would make on to appeal to a 30 year old who wants a little adventure. As the car manufactures are getting away from making a sedan, and going to larger SUV or crossovers: that never see any adventure other the Costco. Maybe Motorcycles Manufactures will have to entice the motorcycles for the adventure of riding.
 
The low RPM nature of the NC700 engines have not set the motorcycle world afire. I have one and bought it more for curiosity and for riding something different. Even in its enlarged 750 size, it may run into the same buyer's resistance because it won't do 110 mph in the 1/4 mile
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Unfortunately you are right. :) But now and then the manufacturers get it wrong and build something really sensible that doesn't sell. Later, those models often develop a cult following.
 
Unfortunately you are right. :) But now and then the manufacturers get it wrong and build something really sensible that doesn't sell. Later, those models often develop a cult following.
Hmmmmm… sounds like a bike we know don't it?

Mike
 
My guess is that the NC700 & NC750 are popular in countries where fuel prices are usually over $6 per gallon. My NC700X/w DCT usually delivers fuel economy of 65+ MPG. Even riding it on the slab for long distances at 65-70 mph, delivers economy in the mid-to-high 50s.
 
Why are the French getting it first? If it comes here and it's relatively light, my NT is history! ;)
 
I like the concept drawing and I'd be happy with the engine from the NC700X. With a 6 speed shaft drive. And maybe make a pannier a bit easier to remove to make rear tire changes not so much of a PITA.
 
I would be happy with the 650cc in the new model. I never understood why a 1000cc is need for touring for most people. A 650 Triumph was a big bike with less horsepower then today's models.
I still wonder why a touring bike has to have a 34" seat height.
I rode the early 650 Deauville. Honda had brought one into Canada to see what the public reaction would be. I rode it for about half an hour on a twisty backroad. I was very impressed with the engine and the handling. It was definitely smoother than the 700. Unfortunately, it was never imported.
 
I agree about the absurdly tall seat heights on almost all modern motorcycles.

Whenever I read the road test for a new model, I always go to the specs for seat height BEFORE I even get into the text and if it's too tall for me, I skip to the next article. Too many bikes appear to have 8-10" or more of daylight between the rear tire and rear fender but only 5" or less of rear wheel travel. And the vast majority of them have next to nothing to contain the water spray & grit when riding on wet roads. Was all their prototype testing done in AZ in August?

Apparently it's all part of the "stink bug" look with tail light in the air that motorcycle designers love these days. And because of the lack of anything you could call a rear fender, they have to hang the license plate bracket way behind the bike on something that appears to be an afterthought. Almost as absurd as the Trucks & SUVs that look Baja-ready but their biggest challenge are parking lot speed bumps. :-(
 
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Well, Honda have previewed the 1100 Africa Twin so they'll be doing something with the 1000cc motor. Maybe a new "Deauville"...
 
JQL - it's not as if the Honda engine factory has a bunch of leftover 1000 engines waiting for a home. It's typical Honda practice to only build engines for VINs already in process.
 
998 cc. Electric screen. 260 kg wet. 95 hp. Cardan drive shaft. I hope the info about DCT only is wrong. 800 mm seat height is good.
 
At least Honda has learned it's lesson and the panniers will swallow a helmet. I like the sound of "state of the art" electronics, too.
 
JQL - it's not as if the Honda engine factory has a bunch of leftover 1000 engines waiting for a home. It's typical Honda practice to only build engines for VINs already in process.
Ah, but now they have a readily available, tried and tested engine which will pass the current EU Emissons tests that they can use with a shaft drive.

BMW and Yamaha are picking up a lot of Touring/Sports Touring sales that I'm sure Honda san is not happy about. The motorcycle market demographics has changed. Also, the Dual Sport is getting "long in the tooth" now. So, maybe, time for a change as this is a comeplete segment where they don't feature...
 
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Shaft drive requires the crankshaft to turn backwards compared to a chain drive version of the same engine which is normal Honda practice. I'm not sure if it would still fit under the umbrella of the African Twin's "engine family" when applying for certification.
 
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