Interesting views NT, CTX, NC, ST, VFR

Happened upon this YouTube Video. I had an NT-700, wanted an ST and still have a 5th Gen VFR800. Interesting views:

5 Honda Motorcycles Nobody Wants in America — But Mechanics Say They Last FOREVER!

a guy with 12 followers and 1 "Like"
With five vids that show about the same thing?
And many of the pics have no relevance.
I dont know much about AI but I can tell you there are many fake AI aviation books out there written by the same non existant author released in the same 6 week period.

The Vid does have some validity.
Why did the NT700, shaft drive Yamaha 650 Seca, and the Yamaha XV920RH with its sports touring Virago looks and enclosed chain drive all do well in Europe and flopped here?
Europeans are more practical and want machines for daily riders...even in the rain. And get good gas milage. Who bought the NT in the US? Practical old men, many of whom are pilots.
Look up how many pilots there are in the US per 1000 citizens, now look at how many pilots are on this forum. Frosty, Phil, Yoda, me to name some.

By 2010, the day of the UJM/practical bike was over for many reasons...though I think even Honda is surprised by the success around the world of the NT1100. Lots of bike at a fair price and IIRC came with panniers in some countries.
 
I got drafted and promptly enlisted in the USAF. While waiting for basic, I took the AF Officer Qualification Test. One of the many questions was, "Do you like riding motorcycles?"
Strange question, but I answered Yes. I was offered a Pilot Training slot. I always wondered if someone thought there may be a correlation.
 
I got drafted and promptly enlisted in the USAF. While waiting for basic, I took the AF Officer Qualification Test. One of the many questions was, "Do you like riding motorcycles?"
Strange question, but I answered Yes. I was offered a Pilot Training slot. I always wondered if someone thought there may be a correlation.
I went to college on an Army ROTC scholarship. When I was fixin' to graduate, went for a pre-commissioning physical. Found out I'm partially color-blind - prevented me from being a pilot. I tell people I ride a motorcycle because I am not permitted to fly a fighter jet. :rofl1::rofl1:
 
a guy with 12 followers and 1 "Like"
With five vids that show about the same thing?
And many of the pics have no relevance.
I dont know much about AI but I can tell you there are many fake AI aviation books out there written by the same non existant author released in the same 6 week period.

The Vid does have some validity.
Why did the NT700, shaft drive Yamaha 650 Seca, and the Yamaha XV920RH with its sports touring Virago looks and enclosed chain drive all do well in Europe and flopped here?
Europeans are more practical and want machines for daily riders...even in the rain. And get good gas milage. Who bought the NT in the US? Practical old men, many of whom are pilots.
Look up how many pilots there are in the US per 1000 citizens, now look at how many pilots are on this forum. Frosty, Phil, Yoda, me to name some.

By 2010, the day of the UJM/practical bike was over for many reasons...though I think even Honda is surprised by the success around the world of the NT1100. Lots of bike at a fair price and IIRC came with panniers in some countries.
I'm old and I was a pilot also. Yep, practical bikes just don't do well here. I don't understand it.

Cliff
 
I'm old and I was a pilot also. Yep, practical bikes just don't do well here. I don't understand it.

Cliff
Back in the 1960s, there was a bike called the Honda Dream.......About one in 700 people are licensed pilots.
Note enclosed chain, easy to get to points and valves.
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1967 Japanese Marusho 500...with a drive shaft. Now Honda make a copy of the R69 and take my money!
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I went to college on an Army ROTC scholarship. When I was fixin' to graduate, went for a pre-commissioning physical. Found out I'm partially color-blind - prevented me from being a pilot. I tell people I ride a motorcycle because I am not permitted to fly a fighter jet. :rofl1::rofl1:
 
I went to college on an Army ROTC scholarship. When I was fixin' to graduate, went for a pre-commissioning physical. Found out I'm partially color-blind - prevented me from being a pilot. I tell people I ride a motorcycle because I am not permitted to fly a fighter jet. :rofl1::rofl1:
The USAF was smart enough to give me a physical before the end of my first ROTC year. At land grant colleges like the University of Illinois, Urbana, circa 1960, Males HAD to take so many semesters of ROTC.
 
Back in the 1960s, there was a bike called the Honda Dream.......About one in 700 people are licensed pilots.
Note enclosed chain, easy to get to points and valves.
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That is the 305 cc Dream, I had a 150 cc Dream. Quickest way to tell them apart is the 305 had the chrome piece around the front fender. Those enclosed chains lasted forever and they weren't o-ring chains.
 
That is the 305 cc Dream, I had a 150 cc Dream. Quickest way to tell them apart is the 305 had the chrome piece around the front fender. Those enclosed chains lasted forever and they weren't o-ring chains.
Correct . My first college roomate had a 150 cc. After the first few adjustments on my Yamaha XV920 RH, the enclosed chain in a lithium grease bath never changed till I changed the grease at 20,ooo miles. After that bike, I was convinced that enclosed chains were the bomb. So of course they were killed, as were the chains with one easy to pop off clip. Easy to change sprokets, and easy to clean non O ring chains. Not putting down shafts by any means. I would love to see a report on salvaged 15,000 mile chains and the condition of the O rings.
The one and only one bike I wished I had back over 60 years was this bike. 1981. Tubeless tires, enclosed chain. Easy to set valves. I did put a fairing on it, No can bus. Not lightning fast but a good seat height and I took the entire state of ND at 80 mph. So was the Connie C10 a better bike? Yes. But I still miss the RH. 65 HP at 6500 rpm. 500 lbs. 31 in seat heught. I put an oil temp gage on mine and unless you were climbing a mountaun pass on a hot day, it never got that hot. The C10 was a good bike...I just dont want it back.


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Back in the 1960s, there was a bike called the Honda Dream.......About one in 700 people are licensed pilots.
Note enclosed chain, easy to get to points and valves.
I had one of those. It was my first motorcycle that didn't come to me in the form of assorted parts from a junk yard. I bought it new and it was my transportation to everywhere I went. It had the bare minimum everything to be street legal and I spent most of my earnings paying for it. (I had taken a year off college and was supposed to be working for college money at the time) Those were the days that I was learning how to make better decisions. Yes, easy to work on but also required more attention that bikes we have now.
 
I had one of those. It was my first motorcycle that didn't come to me in the form of assorted parts from a junk yard. I bought it new and it was my transportation to everywhere I went. It had the bare minimum everything to be street legal and I spent most of my earnings paying for it. (I had taken a year off college and was supposed to be working for college money at the time) Those were the days that I was learning how to make better decisions. Yes, easy to work on but also required more attention that bikes we have now.
I do agree that the older bikes required more attention. How many of our younger members have replaced points plugs and condensor? But they in general were not hard tasks. And were common sense. I now understand why Triump charges $1800 to set the valves on a 900 triple. If I took an hour to set them on my Yamaha 650, it was because I was sick or drunk or something. (BTW, there is alot of AI garbage out there about there being a new retro 650 in the Works at Yamaha. These yahoos dont understand new emissions laws, designers bent on all sorts of electronic ge gaws that no one wants or needs, can bus schist. etc. I dare them to bring out a RE like XS650 with fork gaiters and solid wire wheels with Tubless tires and keep the steam gages. Never happen. RE did keep the screw adjusters but made the valve cover hard to get off and put on an ABS system. :oops:

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I remember changing points, condenser, brake shoes, oil every 1k miles ( no filter), blowing out the air filter with compressed air, and tappets. It was fun. Now I’m changing an oil filter, bleeding brakes and flushing coolant. Better bikes but feels a lot like work.
 
Thanks for the picture. Brings back memories. I think I was 19 or 20 at the time and had no appreciation for the simplicity of the machine back then. Also no riding gear and nothing to stay dry on rainy days. I worked 3rd sift at a factory (a union job that paid well) and it was my transportation to and from work. I was supposed to be saving money for college. I also had a '53 Ford at that time which was much much less dependable than the motorcycle (read rusty junker).

So how good were the "good old days"???? Maybe the "good" part was that I was young and healthy living in blissful ignorance of what lay ahead.
 
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